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Jul 08 2023 (15:46)  
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Entry# 5771722               Past Edits
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Chair Car Fare Concession Update (Including VB)
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5 Public Posts - Sat Jul 08, 2023

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Jul 08 2023 (16:23)
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Ab RTI aur source ki jarurat nahi padegi, Railway khud batayega uski kaun kaun si VB buri tarike se flop hai.
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2 Public Posts - Sun Jul 09, 2023
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Jul 06 2023 (10:51)   20911/Indore - Nagpur Vande Bharat Express
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How Indian Railways and Government gets thousands of Crores when it comes to publicity but then cries that it's facing loss due to non-AC passengers

Today only 136 seats have been booked in Indore - Bhopal Vande Bharat
If we multiply it by 810, which is the cost of end to end ticket of this VB
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get approximately 1 Lakh 10 Thousands Rupees ONLY!

Now let's take the example of Sampoorna Kranti

It has 3 General coaches
And I'm pretty sure atleast 500 people would be travelling in those general coaches if not more
Cost of PNBE - NDLS - 290
500 ├Ч 290 = nearly 1.5 Lakh

Edit (as everyone objected about distance difference)

Varanasi - Lucknow Shuttle superfast express has 1300 General seats and it runs full.

And even if we take only 1000 general seats in consideration

The revenue made by shuttle will be 1000 ├Ч 120 = 1 Lakh 20 thousand rupees. Again to remind you it has 6 CC too which I'm not counting.

Fair comparison?

Loss loss rone wale log kahan gaye?? MP me election tha to bina soche samjhe wahan 2 VB chala di. Dono white elephant, total flop
Ye loss nahi kar rahi? Politics ki baat aati hai to Croro aa jate hai. I'm pretty sure if we combine everything (things like operating cost etc etc)
All the three latest VB are causing much more loss than UR coaches of Superfast trains.
Mind you one thing, I've only taken 3 general coaches out of a train and haven't even taken sleeper in consideration.

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5 Public Posts - Thu Jul 06, 2023

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Jul 06 2023 (12:35)
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Aisa hai, pehle aap dhang se padh lia karo fir comment kiya karo
I concluded 500 passengers in all 3 General coaches. Not 500 in one.

It's Sampoorna Kranti and not aisi waisi train, it'll definitely run overcrowded and 500 UR passengers is low bar, there's probably more people travelling in it. 3 UR coaches. To remind you.
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And for 136 seats, VB is generating 1 Lakh 10 Thousand rupees but you're ignoring everything including operating cost etc and stuff like those.

But you'll justify anything which government brings and harms non AC passengers that's why I request you to not reply to me. Thanks!

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2 Public Posts - Thu Jul 06, 2023

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Jul 06 2023 (12:48)
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Sir ji

Strawman fallacy kyu kar rahe hai aap?

Sampoorna Kranti ka keval general class ka revenue hai ye.
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OBHS wagera jo bhi lag raha hai isme, us se AC class etc etc sabko fayda ho raha hai, 22 LHB coaches right?

Ab suniye ye baat, aapne kaha 50% operating cost hai VB ki in comparison to SK

Lekin ab revenue suno aap

SK -
1.5 Lakh Rupees in General (500 UR passengers)
2 Lakh 55 thousands Rupees in Sleeper (480 passengers ├Ч 510тВ╣)
5 Lakh 80 thousands Rupees in 3AC (432 passengers ├Ч 1350тВ╣)
2 Lakh 6 thousands Rupees in 2AC (108 passengers ├Ч 1910тВ╣)
83 thousand 850 Rupees in 1AC (24 passengers ├Ч 3225тВ╣)

Total kitna ho raha? Approx 12 Lakh

Aur Bhopal VB kitna kama rahi? Jyada se jyada 2 Lakh.

And as you said the operating cost of SK is double of VB
But it's giving a revenue that is six times of VB.

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2 Public Posts - Thu Jul 06, 2023

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Jul 06 2023 (12:53)
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Aap blog ka motive samajhiye pehle

Sarkar aur Bharatiya Rail kehti hai ki General aur Sleeper walo ke karan loss hota hai, lekin ye white elephant flop full AC VB loss nahi kar rahi hamari Sarkar ko?
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100% kar rahi

Atleast general aur sleeper loss kar rahe lekin full chal rahe SK ke, unlike this train (Bhopal VB).

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3 Public Posts - Thu Jul 06, 2023

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Jul 06 2023 (16:01)
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Again, you did not read the conversation properly.

Yes I compared these two trains and one travels way more distance than other.

But will you keep standing over the fact that
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these two launches weren't politically motivated and they did not care about loss here?

This train is causing loss or no?

You're saying "we have not gone in to expenses so far."

Please, this is VB
It costed a fortune to be made and also takes a lot of money to be maintained. Yet is running like a white elephant.

The second point is, General coaches are running at their full capacity in like every part of India. Unlike these three latest VBs

So in the end what I'm trying to conclude is, the loss which is faced by IR is not just due to non-AC coaches. A large part of its loss comes from politically motivated moves and blunders which IR causes itself.
In non-AC coaches atleast a large number of people are getting benefitted
But in these stupid VBs, neither IR is earning money nor are these VB rakes running to their full potential.

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2 Public Posts - Thu Jul 06, 2023

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Jul 06 2023 (17:06)
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Again, all the locomotives you're talking about

Are flexible and they're not bound to any one train and can be transferred from anywhere to any place.

Same isn't the case with VBs
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Plus I was talking about UR coaches of prominent superfast trains, they definitely run full all year.

And since everyone was crying about the distance comparison I did, here is one more comparison.

Varanasi - Lucknow Shuttle superfast express has 1300 General seats and it runs full.

And even if we take only 1000 general seats in consideration

The revenue made by shuttle will be 1000 ├Ч 120 = 1 Lakh 20 thousand rupees. Again to remind you it has 4 CC too which I'm not counting.

Fair comparison?

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Jul 06 2023 (17:07)
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For anyone wondering about the source of this data

You can check it on IRCTC, tomorrow charts will be made again
And you can access it yourself

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by the way
News reports have reported these themselves too!
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2 Public Posts - Thu Jul 06, 2023

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Jul 06 2023 (17:26)
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Rone do bhai, jisko jitna rona hai.

I did a comparison between SK and BPL VB.
People objected over distance, I've again did a comparison between BSB LKO Shuttle and VB.
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Baki hum to na PIL file karenge, na RTI karenge

Blog bana ne se kisi ne roka nahi hai, Moderator sir agar aake bolenge ruk jao, tab ruk jayenge. Baki jisko jitni frustration hai rakhe apne pas. Kisi ki daddy ji ki site nahi hai ye.

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3 Public Posts - Thu Jul 06, 2023

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Jul 06 2023 (18:41)
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Fair enough from your side and thanks for having a respectful discussion rather than turning it to an ad hominem!
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3 Public Posts - Fri Jul 07, 2023

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Jul 07 2023 (09:09)
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@5770084-30  @guest
Of course it does

More precisely when the UR coaches are giving more revenue than the "premium" Train
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5 Public Posts - Fri Jul 07, 2023
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Jul 06 2023 (19:38)  
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Entry# 5770438              
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Sleeper version vande bharat express

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Honestly, livery isn't that interesting.
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7 Public Posts - Sat Jul 08, 2023
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Jul 06 2023 (12:56)  
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Entry# 5770182              
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Vande Bharat Fare May Reduce Soon due to low Occupancy
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Jul 06 2023 (18:53)
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India is one the most economically inequal countries in the world. People here merely earn 15K a month by average Indian standards. I'd bet most of the people including me on this site are priviliged. People earning times more income than Indian average will sure shot won't see the real struggle, right?

Whatsapp forwards padh padh ke dimag kharab ho gaya aur kuchh nahi, baki yahan pe kuchh kiddos hai jo ki bolenge "amir kyu nahi ho, previous generations se puchho wo amir kyu nahi bane" Like koi sense hai is
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baat ka? If someone is financially weak, that person should start blaming his previous generations for it?

Earlier, sleeper classes felt like true reserved classes and now even AC classes of many trains don't feel like reserved. This is how much chaos this policy has caused.

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3 Public Posts - Thu Jul 06, 2023

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Jul 06 2023 (19:13)
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Exactly
And that is India avg, forget backward areas of India like parts of Jharkhand, Bihar, West Bengal, UP etc etc

I genuinely accept the fact that I'm more privileged than most of the Indian population, as what's India's "average" Income is, it's not a lot for me. Neither am I super rich but yes definitely more privileged than a lot of people.
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I can support rake standardisation? No issues with that, Sleeper coaches are shit. And 3AC-2AC is not expensive for me
But I know the ground reality specially for my region and many other regions. + the fact that even if I board AC classes, I'll be disturbed by UR passengers.

Baki jo bail buddhi morons hai, wo to samjhenge har koi Lakhon kama raha hai and easily expensive tickets afford kar lega.

Why do you think AC classes are getting disturbed?Because a lot of people can't really pay the fare of AC classes and IR is the only "sahara" They've. If most of the population could afford AC classes, overcrowding won't happen in the first place. You'll see many trains having loads of WL in SL but hundreds of seats being vacant in AC. (Here, I'm not justifying overcrowding in AC classes, I totally oppose the idea that one person is paying soo much money yet having uncomforts but by this policy AC passengers are being disturbed too? Right?)

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Jul 06 2023 (11:09)   02549X/Gorakhpur - Lucknow Jn. Vande Bharat Inaugural Special
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INAUGURAL specials VBs ko un stations per rokne ka logic kya hota hai jahan regular TT ke hisaab se stoppage nahi ho
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Vote bhi to chahiye, prime aim wahi hai
Har jegeh rokne se jyada publicity milegi

Gaon dehat ke log janenge ki unke route se VB chal rahi to uske liye vote denge, simple.
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