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Aug 17 2015 (14:44)   12621/Tamil Nadu Express (PT) | NDLS/New Delhi (16 PFs)
 
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1. KK Exp was split into Karnataka Exp and Kerala
2. Karnataka route changed
3. kerala route changed via tpty
4. AP exp is history now....
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TN stood the test of the times!!!

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Aug 18 2015 (09:02)
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12723 is not a history, its Telangana Express.
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12723 Telangana Express: 7 halts in Telangana
12627 Karnataka Express: 7 halts in Karnataka, 8 halts in Andhra Pradesh where AP Express or Telangana Express doesn't run.
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Kerala Express: 15 halts in Kerala, 6 halts in Tamil Nadu, 6 halts in Andhra Pradesh.
22415 Andhra Pradesh AC Express: 8 halts in Andhra Pradesh, 5 in Telangana.
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And then
12621 Tamil Nadu Express: 1 halt in Tamil Nadu, doesn't serve the state Andhra Pradesh where 12723/22415 doesn't run.
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TN might have stood unchanged, but it serves only very small set of passengers. The ones which truly serve loads of passengers might take a different form, but they serve. The SR babus kept the schedule unchanged to prove their narrow mindsets.
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Pity your poor understanding capability.

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Aug 12 2015 (20:37)   20806/Andhra Pradesh Express | BZA/Vijayawada Junction (10 PFs)
 
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bza sacrificing a train got pqwl on return ndls-vskp ac ap exp
gnwl ndls-rjy/vskp
pqwl ndls-bza/ee
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22416 A P EXP 14-08-2015 NEW DELHI VIJAYAWADA JN GENERAL


S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 3A Class -2A
1 14- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 73 AVAILABLE 54
2 17- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 74 AVAILABLE 54
3 19- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 73 AVAILABLE 54
4 21- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 72 AVAILABLE 52
5 24- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 74 AVAILABLE 54
6 26- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 74 AVAILABLE 54


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22416 A P EXP 14-08-2015 NEW DELHI RAJAHMUNDRY GENERAL


S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 3A Class -2A
1 14- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 380 AVAILABLE 193
2 17- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 382 AVAILABLE 196
3 19- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 382 AVAILABLE 196
4 21- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 380 AVAILABLE 196
5 24- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 382 AVAILABLE 196
6 26- 8-2015 AVAILABLE 382 AVAILABLE 196

LEGENDS:- GN-General, PQ-Pooled Quota, RL-Remote Location, DP-DutyPass, RS-Roadside, CK-Tatkal, YU-Yuva, PT-Premium Tatkal

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@1563657-36  @guest
Please have a look at few figures.:
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Samata's availability between Visakhapatnam and Hazrat Nizamuddin:
Thu-Aug 13 RAC 26 Avbl 5 Avbl 7 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 15 GNWL# 28 / RAC86 WL# 13 WL# 8 0m old Refresh
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16 RAC51 / RAC 49 RAC10 RAC 11 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 18 Avbl 107 RAC 12 RAC 1 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 19 Avbl 156 Avbl 54 Avbl 16 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 20 Avbl 135 Avbl 76 Avbl 16 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 22 RAC 41 GNWL# 27 / WL# 6 RAC10 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 23 Avbl 112 GNWL# 17 / WL# 14 Avbl 11 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 25 Avbl 161 Avbl 31 Avbl 3 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 26 Avbl 101 Avbl 62 Avbl 17 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 27 Avbl 25 Avbl 20 Avbl 28 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 29 Avbl 66 Avbl 42 Avbl 32 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 30 RAC 20 RAC 13 RAC2 / RAC 2 0m old Refresh
Tue-Sep 01 Avbl 170 Avbl 80 Avbl 19 0m old Refresh
Wed-Sep 02 Avbl 131 Avbl 63 Avbl 1 0m old Refresh
Thu-Sep 03 Avbl 91 Avbl 49 Avbl 4 0m old Refresh
Sat-Sep 05 Avbl 94 Avbl 62 Avbl 18 0m old Refresh
Sun-Sep 06 Avbl 132 Avbl 46 Avbl 34 0m old Refresh
Tue-Sep 08 Avbl 99 Avbl 112 Avbl 42 0m old
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Swarna Jayanti's availability between Visakhapatnam and Hazrat Nizamuddin:
Fri-Aug 14 RAC 9 Avbl 30 Avbl 13 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 Avbl 2 Avbl 4 Avbl 18 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 Avbl 69 Avbl 44 Avbl 14 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 24 Avbl 115 Avbl 57 Avbl 7 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 28 Avbl 43 Avbl 65 Avbl 11 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 31 RAC 54 RAC11 / RAC 9 RAC6 / RAC 4 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 04 Avbl 102 Avbl 73 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Mon-Sep 07 Avbl 85 Avbl 107 Avbl 21 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 11 Avbl 199 Avbl 103 Avbl 7 0m old Refresh
Mon-Sep 14 Avbl 229 Avbl 126 Avbl 41 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 18 Avbl 120 Avbl 97 Avbl 9 0m old
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Link's availability between Visakhapatnam and Hazrat Nizamuddin:
Wed-Aug 12 GNWL# 42 / WL# 5 GNWL# 14 / WL# 7 RAC1 / RAC 1 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 13 GNWL# 14 / WL# 3 GNWL# 15 / WL# 4 GNWL# 2 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 14 GNWL# 51 / WL# 30 GNWL# 18 / WL# 4 GNWL# 7 / WL# 2 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 15 GNWL# 19 / WL# 7 GNWL# 15 / WL# 9 RAC2 / RAC 1 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 16 GNWL# 6 / RAC21 GNWL# 13 / WL# 5 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 RAC11 / RAC 9 GNWL# 7 / WL# 3 Avbl 3 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 18 RAC9 / RAC 7 GNWL# 3 / RAC6 Avbl 11 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 19 GNWL# 22 / WL# 11 GNWL# 7 / WL# 4 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 20 Avbl 6 GNWL# 5 / WL# 1 Avbl 10 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 RAC7 / RAC 4 WL# 7 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 22 RAC8 / RAC 6 WL# 8 RAC2 / RAC 2 0m old
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If link is made to run as a separate 16 coach train, then I don't see any WLs in Link (Daily connectivity). If SJ and Samta are made to run as a 24 coach trains, I don't see any WLs, however we may expect few RACs on certain days.
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Do you still need a separate AC Express from Visakhapatnam, on the lines of the existing timetable, when you could have improvised the existing services?
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As far as what I'm seeing, here is the availability list for Swarna Jayanthi and Link from Vijayawada:
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Link Express (BZA-NZM):
WL Quota: Remote Location/RL Waitlist
Charting @ n/a
General Sleeper AC 3-tier AC 2-tier Freshness Refresh
400 n/a n/a n/a
Tot Seats Avbl 16 Avbl 7 Avbl 4 Update
Wed-Aug 12 RLWL# 51 / WL# 33 RLWL# 24 / WL# 17 RLWL# 6 / WL# 5 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 13 RLWL# 68 / WL# 51 RLWL# 18 / WL# 13 RLWL# 11 / WL# 10 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 14 RLWL# 78 / WL# 65 RLWL# 19 / WL# 18 RLWL# 9 / WL# 7 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 15 regret / RLWL# 100 RLWL# 30 / WL# 29 RLWL# 16 / WL# 15 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 16 RLWL# 81 / WL# 70 RLWL# 15 / WL# 11 RLWL# 6 / WL# 5 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 RLWL# 30 / WL# 24 RLWL# 11 / WL# 11 RLWL# 3 / WL# 3 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 18 RLWL# 30 / WL# 27 RLWL# 4 / WL# 4 RLWL# 1 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 19 RLWL# 20 / WL# 20 RLWL# 3 / WL# 3 Avbl 1 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 20 RLWL# 17 / WL# 14 RLWL# 4 / WL# 2 WL# 2 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 RLWL# 23 / WL# 21 RLWL# 4 / WL# 4 RLWL# 1 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 22 RLWL# 23 / WL# 22 RLWL# 8 / WL# 7 WL# 4 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 23 RLWL# 16 / WL# 14 RLWL# 6 / WL# 6 RLWL# 5 / WL# 3 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 24 RLWL# 32 / WL# 30 WL# 4 RLWL# 4 / WL# 4 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 25 WL# 14 RLWL# 10 / WL# 9 RLWL# 3 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 26 RLWL# 23 / WL# 18 RLWL# 5 / WL# 5 RLWL# 2 / WL# 2 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 27 WL# 55 RLWL# 14 / WL# 14 RLWL# 12 / WL# 10 0m old
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Swarna Jayanthi Express (BZA-NZM):
WL Quota: Remote Location/RL Waitlist
Charting @ n/a
General Sleeper AC 3-tier AC 2-tier Freshness Refresh
400 680 1790 2605
Tot Seats Avbl 40 Avbl 6 Avbl 4 Update
Fri-Aug 14 RLWL# 49 / WL# 25 RLWL# 17 / WL# 9 RLWL# 7 / WL# 2 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 RLWL# 26 / WL# 18 RLWL# 13 / WL# 11 RLWL# 3 / WL# 3 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 RLWL# 7 / WL# 6 RLWL# 8 / WL# 5 Avbl 1 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 24 RAC6 / RAC 6 RLWL# 4 / WL# 3 RLWL# 1 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 28 RLWL# 12 / WL# 9 RLWL# 6 / WL# 5 RLWL# 4 / WL# 4 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 31 RAC7 / RAC 6 RLWL# 10 / WL# 5 RLWL# 1 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 04 Avbl 21 RLWL# 6 / WL# 4 RLWL# 3 / WL# 3 0m old
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(For record purpose, Swarna Jayanthi and Link start from a city, belonging to a state, for which BZA is capital.)
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By the way, show a train, where a train has a good 200+ berths availability between BZA-NDLS-BZA (barring 22415).
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Don't you think a capital of a state deserves a dedicated train?
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You may have 19 trains between BZA-NDLS (barring this AC Express), but very few trains have good quota, and they happen to give the same number of berths to many stations, which means when cut down into berths per station, BZA receives only a handful of them.

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Aug 11 2015 (21:26)   20805/Andhra Pradesh Express
 
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We already had trains like Swarna Jayanthi, which were not 24 coach trains and not to forget, with a better schedule. Its a bold move to snatch a train under ministerial whim from BZA, and lets see how good its patronage is. We had trains taking 32 hours and 34 hours in the likes of SJ and Samta. Now we are seeing an all time low, a fully air conditioned train taking freaking 36 hours. Honestly I do not know how people are feeling happy for this kind of service, when there is no demand at all for it to be extended to VSKP. This is how money is wasted.
All in all, if it has good amount of quota until Nagpur,
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may be people of Telangana and Maharastra could use this. I'm feeling happy for people of Peddapalli, Ramagundam, Sirpur Kaghaznagar for getting an AC train to New Delhi. The long pending demand of 12437/8 halt can finally come to an end.
My dear objectors, please mind that in the days where the AC Classes of existing trains are in a waiting lists which could be cleared with augmentation of 'one' extra coach, this full new AC Express is being flagged off. And for record purpose, we say IR is suffering from losses. I know this will get automatically closed with objections of VSKP activists, but I pity the narrow minds who object this 'just because they are from Vizag,' but all I do is hope that this train is utilized by people and hope that people who demanded this extension and the politicians behind this that they get some common sense of how to save money.

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Aug 11 2015 (21:56)
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Yes sir. Agreed, LHB is not only about speed, but why do they even want LHB coaches for long distance trains with 58 average? Even if this train goes at 90 KMPH end to end, it can easily go ontime to its schedule.
People must understand that when you have WL 15 in a faster train, you do not need a slow new AC train, but an extra AC coach to that existing train with WL15. No wonder why IR is in losses.
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Aug 12 2015 (11:17)
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Venkaiah Naidu has asked for speed up, but there is no guarantee that the speed will be reduced. If you have news with proper "source", please comment. Or else do not comment what is "likely to happen" as something which is "bound to happen."
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Aug 12 2015 (11:52)
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Samta/SJ 3A, 2A, 1A avail chudu anna, WL 15 kante ekkuva unda? WL 15 ochindi ani kotha train eskonte Ippatiki SC-NZM 15 new dedicated AC Express' undalsi undedi. And Samta/SJ is not even 24 coach train- hayiga oka 3A, oka 2A, oka 1A eskonte ee slowpoke train undedi kadu. And do you think people will prefer this over Samata or SJ?
North east parts of Telangana ki idi additional train- They have enough trains in the name of 12723, 12721, 12707- that should be more than enough to cater the services.
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running empty- cancel cheiyandi. evaru oddu annaru? SCR lo DD ki 55 average ichi nadapatam waste, because buses are doing "better" than trains.
VSKP hater annte VSKP ki development (train in this case) avsaramledu antanu kani alternate idea enduku istanu? SJ ki 21 coaches unnayi- 24 eskondi. Link ni delink cheiyandi. 24 coach train veskondi. Meeku kotha train kavali ante 'kotha train' adagandi. BZA ki ichina train extension enduku? Train unnavallu meeru, demand lekunda inka trains kavali anatam yenduku? BZA ki no direct train to NDLS. Anni PQ's or RL's lo untayi. Vallaki Link ni delink cheiyataniki scope ledu- Samata/SJ ki 3 coaches add cheiyataniki scope ledu. Alantivalla nunchi tran lakkonte matram its just doing justice to the quote "Addukkonevalla deggra nunchi lakkovatam."
BZA AC Express schedule edo thopu laga ledu, I agree. But BZA is capital region and BZA termination unte adi 100% Rajdhani avtundi in future. VSKP nunchi Rajdhani avtundi ani guarantee ivvagalara? Rajdhani aina intha slow schedule unte do you think a common man will spend money to take 'this' train over Swarna Jayanthi?
BZA nunchi MAS Rajdhani/MAS Duronto two slots unnayi. Changing timings isn't a really big challenge when compared to changing the timings of present 22415.
"Be it be succumbing to political or lesser interest, SCR got the all time worst TT for YPR GR. Where coaches are capable for 130kmph, it didnt get 50 avg speed. Why didnt SCR scrap it ? Running with more than 80% empty berths, why didnt they notice it ? If SCR notice it, why Patriots of SCR notice and file a petition against it ? Why SCR is hesitating to scrap the DD losses although they made a public statement on it. Pls, get your facts correct before targeting a place."
YPR GR TT is getting changed. Don't worry about GR. It gave profits when it was running in the prime slot. Agreed that SCR didn't do good, but better late than never, it will run in a fairly better TT from November. What more can you expect from an over saturated route?
"SJ was introduced about 17-18 yrs back. look how much traffic has increased in this 2 decades. Not possible for aggressive TT everytime."
12723 Was introduced in 1976. Despite the traffic increase, we are managing to run Duronto Express at an average speed of 77 KMPH between SC-DEE (12213 Duronto) and 78 KMPH between SC-NZM (12285 Duronto). Why someone else do that?
Regarding DD: Cancel it. For heaven sake cancel it. No one wants the DD to run. In fact even before its introduction I had called it a useless train and it was bound to run with poor patronage. I do not have as many contacts as you do in the railways, but as far as what I can do, I have done to get it canceled.
"How about SCR's SC SHM LHB AC EXPRESS which runs on same exact TT like a ICF SF. Shall we scrap it ?"
You are mistaken. It runs in a slower than ICF SF slot in SHM-SC Direction. But there is a fair demand of last moment passengers to Kolkata, because there are only two other trains which run to Kolkata from Hyderabad and are usually wait listed. Days of operations should be changed, and I'm not against it. But mind that there are only two other trains to HWH which are jampacked every single day in the year.
"What did SCR do for SC VSKP AC Ex with LHB ? Why didnt SCR design a faster TT ? Is VSKP is at fault even then? SCR's own SC VSKP Drnt or GR does better ? Who is wasting money here ? Who is lazy in designing TT's ?"
How fast you want to run an overnight train, which is just a supporting train to other trains? SC 23:00 VSKP 03:00? Please tell me. It is running "only because" a rake is lying empty and there is demand.
Please list out remaining questions, if any.
PS: This is just 'difference in opinions', I'm not against you as in person. I hope its the same other way around.
Cheers.

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Aug 12 2015 (16:58)
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"which train is having 1 A from VSKP to Delhi ?"
How many trains have scope of getting a 1A?
"Is WL and figures matter, then as per RTI and even SCR;s own figures, then its wavering from 50-80 berths of AC classes all included. So, Then BZA definitely doesnt need a train until you file another RTI to see if demand increased or not."
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You are taking only those quota seats into consideration and are assuming this is the demand from BZA, which is absolutely wrong. Do you have any idea about the no. of passengers who book tickets from MAS or any station which is having GN quota for a particular train and change the boarding point to BZA?
Let us look at some statistics to look at some prospects of demand.
As per 2011 statistics
Urban Agglomeration population of Vijayawada: 14,91,202
Urban Agglomeration population of Guntur*: 10,28,667
Population of Tenali*: 1,64,649
Total population: 26,84,518 ~~27 Lakhs.
As of 2015 there could a rise in population in these cities consider it to be around 5 Lakhs.
Approximated Population: 27 Lakhs + 5 Lakhs = 32 Lakhs
*Included because distance is less than 40 kms and people won't mind travelling it, usually takes an hour.
Vishakapatnam metropolitan area population: 20,91,811. Lets assume it as 26 Lakhs as in 2015.
Can anyone deny to run a train from Vijayawada to Delhi for now least bothered about its route?
Other than these, Vijayawada is one of the biggest and busiest junction of Indian Railways, so there is good chance for passengers who hasn't got a confirmed ticket to go to there respective destination to think about a connecting train from this station.
Starting a train from BZA doesn't mean that passengers from other cities towns are not allowed to board it. No one will throw stones at passengers who comes from vishakapatnam or any city to board train. Everyone are welcome to board it from BZA and other places till destination giving no scope for regionalism.
It's unfair to snatch from a person who had got his new fruit for the first time after 10 years.
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"Slow poke is due to VSKP or ECoR or by me, its your own Rail Zone buddy. Check out BZA NDLS AC Ex. Its pathetic. Why didnt you stage up this kinda show then?"
Had it been a BZA-NDLS AC Express, it would have been a Rajdhani in future. There are many empty premium slots from BZA, and its easier to change the slot. And what do you mean by "stage up a show"? Do you think I deliberately started this discussion? And if I would have deliberately started, I would have received objections to get this archived, but see the number of people agreeing with my view.
"DD is running empty and you want to cancel it, right? What have you done to get it cancel? Will SCR guys(you know the list) will support if VSKP says let it be VSKP TPTY/SC DD then ? Never na? you bring stats of some other trains."
I'm not concerned about someone here, but as far as I'm concerned, I always want a premium class day time connectivity between SC-VSKP via BZA with heavy average. You can check my imaginary trains, I've already chalked out two schedules (up and down).
"Check out for Cocanada WL figures and still runs it. They can add another AC or Gautami or some other but they are running a full train. Why hurry dude, just wait for the season to pick up. If it doesnt perform well, I will join you in terminating @ BZA itself."
As far as 22415 is concerned, I'm not hurrying. When you do not have demand for the existing trains, why start a new train? Gowthami is running with 24 coaches and is likely to become the first 26 coacher in Indian Railways owing to its demand. People prefer a WL ticket in Gowthami over a confirm ticket in Cocanada. Although numbers show high availability in Cocanada, I've seen Cocanada go with handful of last moment passengers. By the way, as IR is starting a concept of providing alternate accommodation, Cocanada will take the load of Gowthami, at least in future.
Can you show me the demand of Gowthami in Link/Samata/SJ? SCR introduced AC Express trains like Cocanada only because the first preferred train is overflowing.
"RL or PQWL is not the concern, The total demand stands the same. And if its disaster from VSKP to NDLS, then forget BZA, even CBN also cant help to get patronage. Clear?"
You never know how a person is booking a ticket. As I've already quoted message written by my friend Vamsee Teja few paragraphs above, you can get answer for this point in that paragraph.
"If this is not Rajdhani, then AP - Amravathi has clear chances of getting another Rajdhani kinda train. If this is given to only BZA, who else can demand a Rajdhani?"
Why do you want a train from VSKP when there is no demand at all? Why not put one from BZA and make it Rajdhani in future?
"Rajdhanis are invented in ages old where only capitals are crowded. with the crowd Ameerpet is having, they can start Ameerpet (Nature Cure Hosp) - Vizag train also. Come out of concepts. They arent working."
If you come out of concepts, the result is a slowpoke train, just like 22109 and 22415. We had a nice concept of Duronto, which was not properly utilized. Every concept does work, only if you implement it perfectly. If you start a Duronto Express between two places which has good end to end passengers, it will click. But If you start a Duronto between two places where trains are full just because less quota, then it will not click.
"YPR GR TT will change, I know the new TT also but why was it changed ? What were you doing then ? Did you raise your voice just the way you raised for Diverted trains in IRFCA ? Pradyu meeda EDavaDam kaadu, lOkam chooDu."
YPR GR TT was changed because of increase in frequency of other trains. And in that route, asking for a better overnight slot was not possible. By the way, I'm unsure if the train will be punctual with the new timetable. BTW, if there is one person whom I give respect among the VSKP RFs, then it is you.
"Drnt are non stops commercially and enjoy high prestige. BBS BNC Prem rocks and much better than hwh ypr Drnt. So tomo, you cant ask for a similar train from VSKP to SBC in same way. They are a different league."
Premiums enjoy the Duronto style preference, while making the timetable or while they are in the move.
"SHM SC express is just a piece of morsel SCR for SER to run a LHB during Didi period and hence it runs. If HWH - HYD can get a AC Express, why cant VSKP NDLS AC Express."
SHM-SC may be a train started in ministerial whim, but it helps many last moment passengers who get heavy WL in Falaknuma/East Coast.
"There is only 1 proper daily irritating train and thats Link. SJ and Samatha are running and will run due to consistent demand. Pls dont bring that train which runs to Amritsar now."
Samata's availability
Thu-Aug 13 RAC 26 Avbl 5 Avbl 7 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 15 GNWL# 28 / RAC86 WL# 13 WL# 8 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 16 RAC51 / RAC 49 RAC10 RAC 11 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 18 Avbl 107 RAC 12 RAC 1 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 19 Avbl 156 Avbl 54 Avbl 16 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 20 Avbl 135 Avbl 76 Avbl 16 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 22 RAC 41 GNWL# 27 / WL# 6 RAC10 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 23 Avbl 112 GNWL# 17 / WL# 14 Avbl 11 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 25 Avbl 161 Avbl 31 Avbl 3 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 26 Avbl 101 Avbl 62 Avbl 17 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 27 Avbl 25 Avbl 20 Avbl 28 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 29 Avbl 66 Avbl 42 Avbl 32 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 30 RAC 20 RAC 13 RAC2 / RAC 2 0m old Refresh
Tue-Sep 01 Avbl 170 Avbl 80 Avbl 19 0m old Refresh
Wed-Sep 02 Avbl 131 Avbl 63 Avbl 1 0m old Refresh
Thu-Sep 03 Avbl 91 Avbl 49 Avbl 4 0m old Refresh
Sat-Sep 05 Avbl 94 Avbl 62 Avbl 18 0m old Refresh
Sun-Sep 06 Avbl 132 Avbl 46 Avbl 34 0m old Refresh
Tue-Sep 08 Avbl 99 Avbl 112 Avbl 42 0m old
Swarna Jayanti's availability:
Fri-Aug 14 RAC 9 Avbl 30 Avbl 13 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 Avbl 2 Avbl 4 Avbl 18 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 Avbl 69 Avbl 44 Avbl 14 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 24 Avbl 115 Avbl 57 Avbl 7 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 28 Avbl 43 Avbl 65 Avbl 11 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 31 RAC 54 RAC11 / RAC 9 RAC6 / RAC 4 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 04 Avbl 102 Avbl 73 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Mon-Sep 07 Avbl 85 Avbl 107 Avbl 21 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 11 Avbl 199 Avbl 103 Avbl 7 0m old Refresh
Mon-Sep 14 Avbl 229 Avbl 126 Avbl 41 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 18 Avbl 120 Avbl 97 Avbl 9 0m old
Link's availability:
Wed-Aug 12 GNWL# 42 / WL# 5 GNWL# 14 / WL# 7 RAC1 / RAC 1 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 13 GNWL# 14 / WL# 3 GNWL# 15 / WL# 4 GNWL# 2 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 14 GNWL# 51 / WL# 30 GNWL# 18 / WL# 4 GNWL# 7 / WL# 2 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 15 GNWL# 19 / WL# 7 GNWL# 15 / WL# 9 RAC2 / RAC 1 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 16 GNWL# 6 / RAC21 GNWL# 13 / WL# 5 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 RAC11 / RAC 9 GNWL# 7 / WL# 3 Avbl 3 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 18 RAC9 / RAC 7 GNWL# 3 / RAC6 Avbl 11 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 19 GNWL# 22 / WL# 11 GNWL# 7 / WL# 4 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 20 Avbl 6 GNWL# 5 / WL# 1 Avbl 10 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 RAC7 / RAC 4 WL# 7 Avbl 6 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 22 RAC8 / RAC 6 WL# 8 RAC2 / RAC 2 0m old
If link is made to run as a separate 16 coach train, then I don't see any WLs in Link (Daily connectivity). If SJ and Samta are made to run as a 24 coach trains, I don't see any WLs, however we may expect few RACs on certain days.
Do you still need a separate AC Express, when you could have improvised the existing services?
"Its not having contacts and even if we have contacts, all patriots spurge up asking for proofs. Our members are capable of asking Haribabu for proofs in press conference."
I don't know what you are referring to, but I believe in the information which is out through the appropriate person.
"Which ONT you are speaking from SC to VSKP ? AC express ? Its much slower than Godavari and GR.
Check from Nagavalli slot and how great SCR handles."
I'm talking about AC Express, and yes its much slower than Godavari and GR. But its only running because a rake is lying empty and there is demand in passengers for a weekend train. Nagawali's slot is like such. 14 hours between VSKP-SC. Whats there to talk about SCR here?
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@The person who objected this claiming this is wrong data, could you please provide correct data?
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I'm afraid I may not be able to agree with your view of 'many' people going to BBS to catch Rajdhani because the direct trains from VSKP are having availability. And going by your logic, the new train should have been in the route of BZA-NDLS via VSKP, BBS, because no matter what train you provide between VSKP-NDLS via BZA, they are going to use the same Coro/EastCoast/Hirakud to catch BBS Rajdhani/Duronto.
Let me be a bit more clear, say I take VSKP-NDLS via BBS by taking Konark + BBS Rajdhani even though I have availability in Swarna Jayanti- I take that route because it gives me a convenient timings. So if you plan a train on the lines of Swarna Jayanthi,
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which I have ignored due to the inconvenient timings, do you think I will take the new AC Express or will I continue in the same old Konark + BBS Rajdhani link?
As far as what I'm seeing, here is the availability list for Swarna Jayanthi and Link from Vijayawada:
Link Express (BZA-NZM):
WL Quota: Remote Location/RL Waitlist
Charting @ n/a
General Sleeper AC 3-tier AC 2-tier Freshness Refresh
400 n/a n/a n/a
Tot Seats Avbl 16 Avbl 7 Avbl 4 Update
Wed-Aug 12 RLWL# 51 / WL# 33 RLWL# 24 / WL# 17 RLWL# 6 / WL# 5 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 13 RLWL# 68 / WL# 51 RLWL# 18 / WL# 13 RLWL# 11 / WL# 10 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 14 RLWL# 78 / WL# 65 RLWL# 19 / WL# 18 RLWL# 9 / WL# 7 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 15 regret / RLWL# 100 RLWL# 30 / WL# 29 RLWL# 16 / WL# 15 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 16 RLWL# 81 / WL# 70 RLWL# 15 / WL# 11 RLWL# 6 / WL# 5 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 RLWL# 30 / WL# 24 RLWL# 11 / WL# 11 RLWL# 3 / WL# 3 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 18 RLWL# 30 / WL# 27 RLWL# 4 / WL# 4 RLWL# 1 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 19 RLWL# 20 / WL# 20 RLWL# 3 / WL# 3 Avbl 1 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 20 RLWL# 17 / WL# 14 RLWL# 4 / WL# 2 WL# 2 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 RLWL# 23 / WL# 21 RLWL# 4 / WL# 4 RLWL# 1 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Sat-Aug 22 RLWL# 23 / WL# 22 RLWL# 8 / WL# 7 WL# 4 0m old Refresh
Sun-Aug 23 RLWL# 16 / WL# 14 RLWL# 6 / WL# 6 RLWL# 5 / WL# 3 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 24 RLWL# 32 / WL# 30 WL# 4 RLWL# 4 / WL# 4 0m old Refresh
Tue-Aug 25 WL# 14 RLWL# 10 / WL# 9 RLWL# 3 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 26 RLWL# 23 / WL# 18 RLWL# 5 / WL# 5 RLWL# 2 / WL# 2 0m old Refresh
Thu-Aug 27 WL# 55 RLWL# 14 / WL# 14 RLWL# 12 / WL# 10 0m old
Swarna Jayanthi Express (BZA-NZM):
WL Quota: Remote Location/RL Waitlist
Charting @ n/a
General Sleeper AC 3-tier AC 2-tier Freshness Refresh
400 680 1790 2605
Tot Seats Avbl 40 Avbl 6 Avbl 4 Update
Fri-Aug 14 RLWL# 49 / WL# 25 RLWL# 17 / WL# 9 RLWL# 7 / WL# 2 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 RLWL# 26 / WL# 18 RLWL# 13 / WL# 11 RLWL# 3 / WL# 3 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 RLWL# 7 / WL# 6 RLWL# 8 / WL# 5 Avbl 1 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 24 RAC6 / RAC 6 RLWL# 4 / WL# 3 RLWL# 1 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 28 RLWL# 12 / WL# 9 RLWL# 6 / WL# 5 RLWL# 4 / WL# 4 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 31 RAC7 / RAC 6 RLWL# 10 / WL# 5 RLWL# 1 / WL# 1 0m old Refresh
Fri-Sep 04 Avbl 21 RLWL# 6 / WL# 4 RLWL# 3 / WL# 3 0m old
Going by the availability pattern, its pretty much clear that BZA-NZM in the two trains you have mentioned apparently has demand.
Can I say your statement "So, if VSKP has demand, VSKP can get. VSKP has no demand, then there is no demand from BZA at all. This is derived from your own replies." stands false, now?
While I absolutely agree that this train provides a better quality connectivity but until Eluru (one station before Vijayawada), Swarna Jayanthi and Link have the same quota which VSKP has. So technically the usage by the people of VSKP not just belongs to VSKP, but is the usage between VSKP-EE.
You may show me 19 trains (excluding 22415) between BZA-NZM/NDLS, but can you show me one train which has a good 200+ availability on its ARP?
And secondly do you think BZA will get a dedicated Rajdhani class train after the introduction of 22415?
Undoubtedly 22415 is a boon to BZA, I'm not disagreeing to that point. But why run it until VSKP when existing trains which are running from VSKP-NDLS are showing healthy occupancy with a chance to the last moment travelers to get a berth, why not terminate it at BZA?
Reg Cocanada: I have personally seen many people at PRS counters of SC seeking for alternate train because Gowthami's ticket was unconfirmed. On the days Cocanada ran, they were happy to grab a berth.
Why not chalk a decent time table after delinking Dakshin? Presently Dakshin doesn't need increase in number of coaches, but Link needs. So may be Link could be given two more coaches under the "26 coach express trains" scheme, but I'm afraid it may not fulfill the demand. So a separate operational schedule, closely trailing Dakshin should be chalked out.
Nagawali is a Mail/Express class train, and it was not intended to run as a superfast. So I don't think 14 hours for 700 KMs is a poor schedule considering its not a superfast.
I too wish the TT of 22415 changes and people of VSKP make use of 22415 (now that its introduced, there is no looking back). I'm not criticizing VSKP in any manner, but I'm just telling that extension was somewhat unfair towards Vijayawada (based on my observations), and the existing trains from VSKP could have been manipulated to see that it provides better connectivity and make the people of VSKP use it. If VSKP still had demand, they could have demanded a new train :) .
No questions, and yes, lets go to Kamat on your next visit to Hyderabad. :)
Cheers.

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Sir, please read my views expressed in the previous replies of this post on why I was absolutely against the extension.
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BTW please have a look at 22416 NDLS-VSKP AC Express availability between NDLS-BZA:
Fri-Aug 14 Avbl 73 Avbl 54 Avbl 4 9m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 17 Avbl 74 Avbl 54 Avbl 4 9m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 19 Avbl 73 Avbl 54 Avbl 4 9m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 21 Avbl 72 Avbl 52 Avbl
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4 9m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 24 Avbl 74 Avbl 54 Avbl 4 0m old Refresh
Wed-Aug 26 Avbl 74 Avbl 54 Avbl 4 0m old Refresh
Fri-Aug 28 Avbl 74 Avbl 54 Avbl 4 0m old Refresh
Mon-Aug 31 Avbl 74 Avbl 54 Avbl 3 0m old
Total quota given: 74/54/4 berths.

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Earthji is a big bokka fellow.
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Ashok avre, who jokes first by calling Earthji as expert?
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I told he is a bokka fellow, not that he has a bokka.
As usual he has 9 bokkas. But his behavior is that makes him big bokka fellow :P
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will start from tomorrow
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translation: AP Express will be inaugurated by Honorable Minister Suresh Prabhu tomorrow from NDLS and Union Minister Venkaiah Naidu will grace the occasion
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Source please?
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Could you please tell which news paper you saw this news, thanks :)
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