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Blog Entry# 5884009
Posted: Nov 16 2023 (20:41)

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Nov 16 2023 (20:41)  
LawanshSingh
LawanshSingh   471 blog posts
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Agree Great:Great analysis. Agree
--Subject- Rake standardisation
I've been reading a lot of debates on this forum regarding rake standardisation. At times, it does turn ugly. Its fine, each one of us has their own opinion and we are not here to crib and fight. Our passion binds us to this website and this community; conflicts and rivalry are the last thing we must engage in.

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we saw incidents like stuffed AC coaches, death due to stampede in view of holiday season. In this backdrop, lets address the elephant in the room- rake standardisation and ACfication of railways.
My opinion is based on extensive reading of current state of economy and augmented by various newspaper articles.

That being said, rake standardisation is an ill thought strategy, especially when done without any homework.

--Why do I say so?
1. India provides free grains to 80cr people. These are people who cannot afford even something as basic as daily food and nutrition(mind you, this is almost 60-70% of India's population). These are the people that form the backbone of our labour market and contribute to labour arbitrage
2. Yearly incomes of bottom 50% people is barely Rs.50,000 per annum. An AC3 train ticket from Delhi to Patna for a single person would cost about 3% of his annual income or 30% of his monthly income.

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--Manifestation of these observations are-
1. 95% of travelers are Non AC (see this article- click here while AC coaches in trains are roughly 60-70% of the rake (click here . Where do you expect these people to go if not crowd AC coaches?
2. Railways was recently forced to introduce trains like Vande Sadharan. You cant ignore this segment at all.
3. Rake standardisation of certain trains were reversed (eg LTT CBE Ex)

--In that case, why are AC seats going full?
India has seen a K shaped recovery post COVID. While richer became rich, poorer became poorer. All in all, a very limited no of middle class people saw upward migration, so much so that they could afford 3AC tickets. Even 1A and 2A has demand now. Rest just took it because of compulsion. This is corroborated by the fact that luxury housing and car segment saw a phenomenal growth, while affordable housing and 2 wheeler sales saw a downturn.

--Suggestions-
1. People complain about subsidies offered in operations of Sleeper coaches, not realising that even 2A and 1A are loss making ventures. Ideally, 2A and 1A coaches should have been swapped with 3A coaches while sleeper could have been hiked by a marginal amount. People going in 1A or 2A could have easily shifted to 3A or flights. Railways should have restricted 1A and 2A to premium trains. In this way, profitability could have been achieved.

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2, Trains like 8 Car VB occupy slots during operations. Better to run a 22C Janshatabdi (or new high priority category) so that all segments of society can be catered instead of only privileged ones. Its not as if VBs are running at 140-150 in all sections. VBs are merely cosmetics in that section, and are punctual only bcoz of high priority accorded to them.
3. Bullet train profitability is highly debatable. There is no profitable High Speed train operations (baring one or two of them). 1L crore Rs could have done wonders to highly saturated routes like NDLS-CNB-MGS, NDLS-KOTA-RTM, NDLS-AGC-VGLJ-BPL, MMCT-BRC, MAS-HWH and so on and so forth). Air connectivity could have been augmented in both the cities instead (esp after Navi Mumbai Airport)
4. Standardise rakes in zones with relatively better socio economic conditions. 2SL, 14AC work better in sectors like MMCT-ADI and southern India. It wont work in NER, ECR etc. NER has been in standardisation spree lately.

--Future of rake standardisation and ACfication of railways-
Its likely that inequality will persist in future. Urbanisation rates are poised to increase from 30% in 2030 to 50% in 2050. Acc to Ravenstein's migration law, there will always be a source and a destination for migrants due to unequal development, irrespective of how much the source (for eg Bihar, UP) develops.
India will surely see a hike in percapita income with our consistent 6-7% growth, but its not yet adjusted for inflation. That being said, inequality is something that'll still persist. As of now, rake standardisation is not the most wise decision.


Comments are welcome, please be civil, no namecalling. Substantiate your argument with news articles and reports.
Good day.

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Nov 17 2023 (01:52)
LHB_for_18047~
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Standardization of rakes across the entire country is an absurd idea simply coz of the varying levels of income of individuals. Like for eg. a UP/Bihar daily wage worker working in Mumbai, Bangalore or Goa earns much more than one working in his native state.
So a train from Mumbai to Gorakhpur for eg. with 10 third AC coaches may run full compared to a train running within UP.
I am from Goa and have encountered a lot of migrants from different states UP, Bihar, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand, WB, etc. here working
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in Goa and a lot of them do earn decently ranging from 20k to 30k a month through their main jobs and other odd part time jobs or working OT. They travel mostly once and in some event of a function or emergency may be twice and many are willing to pay 3A fares. That's why rake standardization in Vasco Jasidih weekly express is a success and AC coaches run full. But that wouldn't mean each and every train across IR should be run with only 2 SL and 2 GS and even in Vasco Jasidih express still I would say they should add 2 more SL coaches and make it 22 coach LHB train.
Also 3E fares should be reduced by some 25 to 30% to make AC travel more affordable to the masses coz it is simply better than Non AC classes in terms of comfort and security.
I strongly disagree with addition of new categories of trains to the already bloated categories existing now be it VB or VS. We already had Antyodaya express trains continue with them introduce more of them with both SL and GS coaches. We need to trim the different categories of trains introduced by RMs for political reasons all over the years.
Jan Shatabdis with high priority sounds ok till such Jan Shatabdi overtakes a rake standardized SF/ME running with 9 to 10 third AC coaches. Passengers paying subsidised fares in Jan Shatabdi getting priority over passengers paying full fares in 3AC is injustice on them you pay more but get inferior service compared to one paying less. Similar case with Garib Rath.
I'm totally with you when you say subsidised AC fares should be totally withdrawn be it for politicians or Railway officials. Infact subsidy in fares should only be given to PWD category.
I would say VB CC rakes be given in future to only Shatabdis and merge VB and Shatabdi category into one. Similarly SL VB rakes be given to Rajdhanis only.
We can have following categories of trains
1. Premium category
A. Rajdhani express with SL VB rake connecting.
national capital with state capitals.
B. Shatabdi express with CC VB rake.
C. AC SF trains with LHB rakes. (Durontos,
Humsafars, etc. merged here)
A&B are top priority trains followed by C.
2. Non premium express trains.
A. SF trains with either LHB or ICF including rake
standardized trains.
B. M/E trains with either LHB or ICF these should run
with non standardized CC.
C. Antyodaya express trains with only SL and GS.
coaches either LHB or ICF.
3. Non premium passenger trains including DEMU and.
EMUs.
Only SF trains should be rake standardized depending upon the places and people they serve. M/E trains should continue to run with with normal CC.
Such reduced categories might also be beneficial to controllers in according priority to a train.
Nuances are totally lost in these rake standardization debates each one likes to impose his lived reality over the entire rail network it won't work in a country with such diverse income levels like ours. People of my state can actually afford AC travel that dosen't mean other states people can and similarly people from other states can afford only SL class does not mean others can't go higher. The decision to standardize a train should be with the zones instead of the RB instructing them from the top. Zonal officials know the areas they serve much better than the people sitting at RB. Also even in RS i strongly disagree with the 2SL approach keep atleast 4 SL and 3 GS or 5 SL and 2 GS in RS trains.
People saying scrap rake standardization completely are equally wrong compared to the ones vouching for complete removal of SL class.

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Nov 17 2023 (06:15)
IsupportCAAMumb~
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2) Even the Bottom people who work for job get atleast 8,000 to 10,000 salary. I am speaking of Unskilled people who find work in Mumbai or any Industrial Area as a Helper. Someone may compromise to work near the place of their Villages or Homes, that's a different thing. Even Uneducated but skilled workers can earn decent salaries in Manufacturing Industry like 18 K. Now, 50 K per annum seems completely untrue for a working person. If you take Average data, that would also include Children, old retired people & House hold women.

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1st AC & 2nd AC are not considered loss making by Railways, only the CAG audit says so(that must have happened due to concession , pls withdraw all such concession from these 2 classes) whereas the SL class is not just making huge losses, it is Bleeding the Railways financially. When you keep FARES STAGNANT, what else do you expect??? Even when fares were raised, IR has always been cautious that SL gets less Hike (Like 2 paise for SL, when 4 paise Hike for 3AC last time) Pls tell me where else apart from IR, do you find so much GAP between the Equivalent AC & non AC classes??? This Gap must be REDUCED so more people can upgrade to the Higher class, as the IR is already in large loses, it makes sense to increase SL prices to reduce this Gap. Prices of SL must be raised by atleast 30 to 50 percent, in fact many TOD trains already run at 1.3 times the Fare & their SL class is Hugely popular, this shows that even the Poor section of our Society is ready to pay more, we must Note this & correct our SL prices by making it between 1.3 to 1.5 times. Gen Tickets can be kept low, but SL. be slightly increased. People already pay Premeium to few booking agents. If one takes 3E when SL is not available, it means HE CAN AFFORD 3E or 3AC, the ones who cannot afford take the UR compartment when travelling alone. If you take a Survey there, you will find few of them were looking for SL class ticket & then travel long distance on UR. When people travel with their Wives to relatives, they need to spend a bit more to ensure Reservation comfort for the wife or child.

Politicians have not given permission for direct fare increase, so Indirect methods are being tried, IR is very flexible, if things don't remain normal, they will simply change the composition again, like they have done for few trains.

Writing here is useless, no railway official or politician will ever read this. Tweet on Twitter instead, run a trend requesting Railway minister over there.

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Nov 17 2023 (06:37)
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Do you know what is another huge loss maker in IR? Premium trains!!! I bet providing all that high priority comes with a lot of operational cost. I won't say all of them but many of them are loss making.IR keeps running them because of politics.
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Dec 02 2023 (19:45)
dheerajind1   217 blog posts
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Ek premium train ko right time pahuchane ke liya kayi trains ko unscheduled halt dekar late Kiya jata hai....jitni bhi trains late hain unme diesel/electricity ka consumption bina kaam ke hota hai...usme bhi AC coaches badhane se aur jyada load hai.... Loss to badhega hi....idle condition mein bhi Fuel/electricity ki barbadi Ho rhi hai.
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Hi Sir,

Thank you very much for giving your valuable time and providing facts with trusted sources however i disagree with most of your points.

1. A person wo get free grains does
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not mean that he cannot afford basic as daily food. There are many many families who can afford basic needs but still collect free grains and sell that at low price to local shops and at other places. Even you know that housemaids who just Sweep the floor and wash utensils in some houses earn upto 10000 Rupees per month which is fare enough to afford bread and butter(Excluding the cost of Rent/Electricity and other things).

2. I could not find any article with attached link for verifying yearly income, it might have been removed now but there is a difference between on paper income and actual income. Even collies and porters earn more then 1 Lakh per year.

3. Regarding 95% of travelers in NON AC Classes, please do not forget that these numbers are having Suburban services included. Alone Mumbai Suburban network carry 33% of total passengers across entire Indian Railways Network. If you want to include those as well then include passengers travel in Metro Trains as AC Class travelers.

4. Regarding introduction of Vande Sadharan, yes Railway forced to introduce it because there is a sympathy card which always remain with a segment and no one can question about those.

5. Regarding reverse of rack standardization, That could be a temporary solution gifted by local lobby of Railway officials. In future since production of Sleeper Class coaches will be less so there is no chance of reversing it back for more trains.

Yes, There is K Shaped recovery post COVID( I am not sure) but even in that case demand of upper K needs to be satisfied. We must know Upper K shape is source of money and lower K shape is a class which need help so it is necessary to keep earning money from upper K with completing their requirements else they will become profitable for other segments like flight or Road transportation and in worst situation, they can migrate to other rich country and become profitable for those However when we come to lower K, we must know that till few years ago they used to get supported by other modes like Auto, Bus etc. as well but when Railway continued to given subsidies, employment of local bus operators also affected which cost more negative impact on economy and financial burden on Railway get increased which lead Railway to get their projects delayed and unable to provide more jobs.


To Bee Continued on your suggestions in next comment however i am not agree with your suggestions as well.

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